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How would I find SCL2 forms and additional information?
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Are the SCL2 forms (LOC Recerts and initials, Life Story, MAP-530, MAP-531, and Narrative) going to be iPad friendly? Our agency is having issues of not being able to open them on iPads. Is there certain software that will open these forms?
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Please explain and define the "Periodic" frequency. If Periodic is chosen, does this mean that the units can be used whenever the clinician deems appropriate?
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How do you request respite on an as-needed basis? The individual does not use respite every week or every month, just when needed due to an emergency or when the parents go on vacation. This was submitted to Carewise as periodic and I was told it has to be monthly or weekly.
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If respite is no longer allocated annually, if a provider agency exceeds its weekly or monthly allocation as outlined on the POC are we to assume that won't be billable?
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When will the SCL2 forms allow CMs to type more information into the MAP-530, LOC, Life Story, POC Narrative (on the communication section and where we are to add the CPP and BSP)? As of right now there is limited space.
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Life story is just a small part of their life. Would a Psycho-social work best here since it really is their life story?
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On the POC Narrative, what if a goal has been achieved and new goals added? How does CM track this?
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On the SCL2 Level of Care Recertification Form and Plan of Care Demographic and Billing Information, the Axis diagnoses sections will not print beyond one line, therefore not all information will be submitted. How do we get the rest of the information (for example, Axis III diagnoses) to print so that we can submit all information?
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On the Freedom of Choice and Case Management Conflict Exemption form, it states on the bottom "by electronically signing and dating this document, the case manager verifies that the participant/ guardian agrees with the information contained on both pages of this form and has electronically signed this document or if not, has signed a paper copy which is kept with the participant's service records."

My questions are:

1. There are not two pages of this form.

2. Does the service record NEED a signed copy along with the electronically signed document? I had another case manager bring to my attention that someone at DDID stated a hand-signed copy will be in each chart. If that is the case, the MAP-531 does not indicate this. It only indicates a signed copy will be in the service record IF AN ELECTRONICALLY SIGNED DOCUMENT IS NOT. Please clarify.
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What is the time frame to get a response on MAP-531 exemption forms? I have been getting my approval/denial letter after the plan has been submitted to Carewise and then I have to respond to a LOI asking for the approval/denial letter.
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A provider is under the impression that participants coming into SCL2 will not be allowed the Group Home option. I do not believe this is true and don’t recall this being discussed, but wanted to be sure. This is especially important because a gentleman has just received emergency allocation and he currently resides in a group home.
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We have a question regarding the code/rate changes for SCL2 plans effective now. From the SCL2 POC’s we have seen, the codes for services are the same as old codes, so how will this affect agencies trying to submit plans under SCL2?
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Where can we find the new codes?
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"What Works for Me" section: Some individuals communicate via other means than verbally, so do we leave that blank? (Since the next section is "what others think works for me") or do we go by what the person shows through behaviors?
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The communication section of the POC is confusing, needs to be changed a little bit.

"What Happens" and "What I am Doing" sections seem to be the same and are repeated.
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"Things I am Figuring Out": Many do not know of anything they feel they are figuring out. Does the team give their input here?
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On the POC Narrative section, who do we put as responsible (staff person, agency, title)?
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We feel we need more instruction/information regarding the modifications or making corrections to documents.

For Modifications that do not require a team meeting, like durable medical equipment, is it okay for the CM to document having spoken to the guardian, or does the guardian have to actually sign off on the signature sheet?

The process by which Case Managers submit modifications for services has not been clearly defined or what signature documents are requested. Participant signature has been mentioned as being required, however, not every participant can make his or her mark or sign the necessary documents which leads to prolonging the process for changes and service implementation. Could this please be discussed in more detail?
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Are Behavior Support Plans/code 96152 to be updated annually? Some Behavior Support agencies are insisting the BSP be requested annually, other providers are saying no.
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Since monitoring positive behavior support plans could only be authorized for three months, does that mean Positive Behavior Support Plans are only approved for three months?
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What needs to be sent in for the three-month recertification for positive behavior supports?
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Paperwork: What paperwork is sent to other providers that makes for a complete POC, etc.?
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Just to clarify, are residential provider agencies required to have all optional POC packet documents (for example, person-centered supported employment plan) on file even if we don't provide that specific service?
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For durable medical equipment put on the SCL2 forms, are the time frames for things like Ensure, adult briefs, etc., still three months and are three estimates still required?
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I've requested Specialized Medical Equipment, formerly through MAP-95-ing the items. Today, Carewise confirmed that it's reflected correctly on the POC along with the MD's signature on the order. However, they're asking that DDID send me a letter of some kind stating that DDID (or whomever in Frankfort), who has been processing the MAP-95. no longer pays for this (in this case, briefs and Boost). Who do I need to get a letter from to prove to Carewise that DMS/Division of Comm. Alternatives/DDID, etc., no longer pays for these supplies? This is confusing because isn't it all Medicaid anyway? This letter also needs to come with a letterhead, per Carewise. So, my next question: How long is it going to take to get this letter?

Clarification needs to be given on the change in the MAP-95 process and what the requirements/process is for that submission.
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Does there need to be an outcome for CM services, as Carewise has stated needs to occur? Does there need to be an outcome/objectives for case management, respite, and residential services?
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For Case Management, Respite and Residential services, are SIS items necessary to justify these services?

Case Managers have recently informed residential providers (per information distributed by the QAs) that there is no longer a requirement for outcomes and objectives; however, the regulations state that the monthly summary is to be an "analysis of progress toward a participant's outcome or outcomes." How are residential providers to ensure that there are not recoupment issues if/when a participant does not have outcomes and objectives?
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According to the Big Day training PowerPoint, it states, "For each service requested on the POC, the CM should identify 3-5 SIS quested that justify the need for the service."

So from my interpretation I would understand that to mean if I requested Residential Level 1 services, I would need to justify it. However, the FAQ provided to providers who did not attend Big Day training number 11 asks if outcomes and objectives are needed for residential.

The answer provided states, "If the person has identified they wish to improve, attain, or retain particular skills related to living in the community while at their residential setting, person-centered goals and objectives should then be developed. Otherwise, there is no requirement for residential goals and objectives."

From reading this, I feel the information appears to be conflicting unless the person wants to live on their own in the community and wishes to work towards those independent skills. While recently having a SCL2 POC, a RES level 1 provider stated since the individual was never going to live on their own, needed great supports (per information on the SIS), then goals and objectives did not need to be discussed. Therefore, I was wondering exactly what is correct. Does the CM need to justify each service? Or is residential services an exception?
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In SCL1 the MAP-109 allowed for more autonomy for folks to switch up their days as they saw fit from one week to the next by listing multiple ADT providers on the plan and then requesting up to 160 units per week to be shared by those providers. Now Carewise says that for this to happen in SCL2, the case manager must submit a modification essentially weekly to move the units around. There is absolutely no way a case manager can be expected to submit that much paperwork to accomplish this. Please advise.
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Has there been a change in the regulations and guidelines regarding family home providers and the provision or "respite services"?
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If an individual is currently receiving respite services under SCL1 and transitions to SCL2 after six months of this year when respite will no longer be an option, will they be eligible to receive the yearly maximum amount of respite as was available under SCL1? Or will it be prorated?
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Are AFC/FHPs responsible for arranging coverage for their own time off (i.e., payment and setting it up) once a participant has transitioned into SCL2 services?
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Are the personnel who provide residential coverage to participants receiving Residential Level II supports during the primary AFC or FHP’s time off to have any specific type of training?
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Clarify the requirement that CM’s respond to crisis situations within 45 minutes if necessary.
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Part of the problem is that the forms as they exist are not conducive to electronic fax. Not sure how to correct this but it is a problem.
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I am wondering why the ADT services were changed and that you can no longer put 160 units per week in combination of both ADTs. We have multiple individuals that go to more than one ADT, and breaking it down into specific units is not helpful, especially with transportation being how it is in this region.

Also, there are times that one ADT is closed and they will go to their other ADT. This is no longer possible due to how the units have to be specifically set numbers.

I have a client who goes to one ADT during the day and then a second ADT in the afternoon. This client wants to spend her whole day at one ADT because of an outing they are going on soon, and now she is no longer able to do this or have the flexibility with her services.

It seems that changes are made with the best intentions, but seem to limit the freedom of choice our clients have and make it much more difficult to live their lives how they want.
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Did I understand someone to say that residential outcomes are no longer necessary under the SCL2 guideline? If so, that is awesome, finally our ladies and gentlemen have a "normal" home life! Thanks for all your help.
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When an individual changes to a new case management agency, this is now done through a modification. Should the transferring case manager to the receiving case manager complete the modification?
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Could we have some guidance on outcomes/action steps for therapies?
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